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    Human psychology and the natural environment, rather than human reason, could have driven the human race forward toward a peaceful federation.

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    • 1.Humans are social because they cannot develop their capabilities in isolation.
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    • 2.Humans are unsocial because they always want to get their own way.
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    • 3.These opposing characteristics lead humans to form associations in which all vie for status.
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    • 1.Hobbes demonstrated that the same competitive psychology that produces associations equally produces cycles of conquest and war rather than stable confederations.
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    • 2.Without rational deliberation as a corrective mechanism, natural psychological drives toward dominance systematically undermine rather than consolidate peaceful interstate order.
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    • 3.Historical empires—Assyrian, Mongol, Roman—show that psychological and environmental pressures more reliably produce hegemonic subjugation than federated peace.
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    • 1.Rousseau argued that natural human psychology, left undisturbed, produces isolated contentment rather than the competitive sociality that generates political institutions.
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    • 2.The 'unsociable sociability' Kant describes is itself a product of contingent historical civilizational pressures, not a fixed psychological universal sufficient to guarantee republican federation.
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    The details of the development toward the peaceful federation are given by Kant's universal history. This narrative is presented as, at best, consistent with empirical evidence. Kant argues that, for the most part, human psychology and the natural environment, rather than human reason, could have driven the human race forward. First, he attributes progress to the “unsocial sociability” (1784, 44) of human beings. Humans are social because they cannot develop their capabilities in isolation.
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