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    If all non-hedonic interests are thus reducible, the clai... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→The accumulation of life and pleasure, and the passive contemplation thereof, are not our only interests.

    If all non-hedonic interests are thus reducible, the claim that we have irreducibly non-hedonic interests is empirically unsubstantiated.

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    • 1.Neuroscience shows all value judgments activate reward centers, suggesting non-hedonic interests reduce to pleasure/pain avoidance mechanisms.
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    • 2.People consistently choose hedonic outcomes when non-hedonic and hedonic interests conflict, indicating true priorities are hedonic.
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    • 3.Evolutionary theory explains all preferences through fitness benefits, which reduce to survival and reproduction (forms of hedonic advantage).
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    • 1.Reducibility claims require showing non-hedonic interests are *identical to* hedonic ones, not merely correlated with brain activity or choices.
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    • 2.People often sacrifice hedonic well-being for autonomy, justice, or knowledge—persistent patterns that resist hedonic explanation without distortion.
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    • 3.Empirical unsubstantiation ≠ actual reduction; absence of proof for irreducibility doesn't prove reducibility has been demonstrated.
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