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    If beauty were constituted by pleasure, disagreements abo... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Pleasure and pain constitute the very essence of beauty and deformity.

    If beauty were constituted by pleasure, disagreements about beauty would reduce to disagreements about pleasure, but they retain a distinctly evaluative, object-directed character.

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    • 1.Beauty judgments claim objects possess evaluative properties; pleasure reports only describe subjective mental states.
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    • 2.We debate whether objects are beautiful, not whether we feel pleasure—suggesting beauty is an objective feature we're tracking.
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    • 3.Pleasure is transient and varies by individual; beauty judgments aspire to correctness and interpersonal validity.
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    • 1.All evaluative properties ultimately ground in experiences that matter to subjects; pleasure is the primary candidate for mattering.
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    • 2.Disagreements about beauty often reflect different pleasure responses to the same object across observers with different preferences.
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    • 3.The evaluative character of beauty language doesn't prove beauty is non-hedonic—evaluation simply means assigning positive value.
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    Key Terms

    Constituted by(describing what conditions would make something true)
    Made up of or determined by; in this case, what things would need to happen for something to count as true.
    Evaluative(ethics)
    Having to do with judgments about what is good, bad, right, or wrong—basically, making value judgments rather than just describing facts.
    aesthetics(Modern aesthetics)
    An approach that tries to describe artworks as objects that express and intensify human subjects' experiences of life
    beauty(André Félibien's aesthetic theory, in the context of the debate between color and drawing in 17th-century French art criticism)
    A result of the proportion and symmetry between corporeal and material parts
    disagreements about pleasure(as contrasted with disagreements about beauty in this statement)
    Differences in what people find enjoyable or satisfying; straightforward differences in personal preference or sensation.
    object-directed(as describing how perception works according to Dignāga)
    Focused on or pointed toward a specific thing; when your perception is object-directed, it's aimed at some particular object in front of you.

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