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    It is not the case that If beauty were constituted by pleasure, disagreements about beauty would reduce to disagreements about pleasure, but they retain a distinctly evaluative, object-directed character.

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    • 1.All evaluative properties ultimately ground in experiences that matter to subjects; pleasure is the primary candidate for mattering.
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    • 2.Disagreements about beauty often reflect different pleasure responses to the same object across observers with different preferences.
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    • 3.The evaluative character of beauty language doesn't prove beauty is non-hedonic—evaluation simply means assigning positive value.
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    • 1.Beauty judgments claim objects possess evaluative properties; pleasure reports only describe subjective mental states.
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    • 2.We debate whether objects are beautiful, not whether we feel pleasure—suggesting beauty is an objective feature we're tracking.
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    • 3.Pleasure is transient and varies by individual; beauty judgments aspire to correctness and interpersonal validity.
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