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    It is not the case that If certain irreplaceable goods are logically inseparable from evil's existence, then a perfectly good God has sufficient reason to permit evil, dissolving the contradiction in (P4).

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.God could create beings who exercise virtue through hypothetical or simulated scenarios rather than actual suffering and evil.
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    • 2.The claim that evil is 'logically inseparable' from goods assumes our limited understanding of possibility matches God's actual metaphysical options.
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    • 3.Even if some goods require evil, this doesn't justify the *quantity and intensity* of suffering observed in our world.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Virtues like courage, compassion, and forgiveness logically require the existence of danger, suffering, and wrongdoing to be instantiated.
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    • 2.A world with these higher-order goods is objectively better than a world without them, even if it contains evil.
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    • 3.An omnipotent God cannot create logical contradictions, so cannot create virtue without the conditions that make virtue possible.
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