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    If drift is merely a bookkeeping description of sampling ... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Drift is a force, though less force-like than selection, mutation, and migration

    If drift is merely a bookkeeping description of sampling variance rather than a productive cause, it cannot instantiate even a weakened force concept.

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    • 1.Productive causes generate novel states; sampling variance merely redistributes existing variation without creating new causal powers.
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    • 2.Force concepts require persistent directional efficacy; pure bookkeeping descriptions lack the systematic asymmetry forces exhibit.
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    • 3.If drift reduces to mathematical artifact rather than mechanism, it cannot satisfy minimal causal realism requirements for force attribution.
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    • 1.Bookkeeping descriptions can instantiate forces: gravity reduces to spacetime curvature description, yet remains genuinely causally efficacious.
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    • 2.Sampling variance produces real, irreversible evolutionary change; effects indistinguishable from productive causes warrant causal status.
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    • 3.Weakened force concepts allow non-fundamental causation; drift's systematic directional bias (fixation bias) satisfies even strict causal criteria.
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