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    Challenges→On a Wittgensteinian line, the false proposition that p being identical with a fact does not suffice to render the proposition true.

    If false propositions cannot be identical with facts by definition, the Wittgensteinian line conflates propositional content with factual constitution, undermining P1's concession.

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    Key Terms

    Concession(as Cleanthes' implicit agreement about a problem)
    An acknowledgment that something is true, even if reluctantly or unintentionally—like admitting a point in an argument you were trying to win.
    Conflates(in argumentation and logic)
    Treats two different things as if they're the same thing, or mixes them up in a way that causes confusion.
    Factual constitution(in metaphysics)
    What something is actually made of or how it's actually structured in reality.
    Identity (or 'identical with')(in philosophy of language and metaphysics)
    When two things are actually the same thing, not just similar—like how 'the president of the USA' and 'Joe Biden' refer to the same person.
    P1(Premise establishing that self-subsistent entities are not immanent in humans.)

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    Wittgensteinian(describing the philosophical tradition or approach being referenced)
    Relating to Ludwig Wittgenstein, an Austrian-British philosopher who argued that many philosophical problems come from misunderstanding how language actually works.
    fact(Armstrong/Mellor's account of facts as truth-makers)
    A fundamental entity consisting in objects, properties and relations bound together, posited to serve as truth-maker for contingent atomic predications
    proposition(Used in the context of a semantic theory sensitive to differences in subject matter.)
    The content expressed by a sentence, individuated at least in part by the subject matter of the sentence and the contents of its subsentential expressions.
    propositional content(philosophy of language)
    The semantic content of a sentence and its truth conditions, distinguished from the information a sentence is used to communicate

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