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    Challenges→When a human being perceives a material thing, what is directly seen is not the material thing itself but its idea in God

    If ideas are intrinsic modifications of the perceiving mind, there is no warrant to locate them in a divine intellect external to the human perceiver.

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    • 1.Ideas exist only where they are experienced; if perceived only in human minds, positing them elsewhere violates parsimony.
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    • 2.Intrinsic modifications are properties dependent on the substance modified; mind-dependent ideas cannot simultaneously inhere in a different substance.
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    • 3.Attributing ideas to a divine intellect requires independent justification beyond explaining human perception itself.
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    • 1.Universal mathematical truths remain constant across observers; this stability suggests a mind-independent source, possibly divine.
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    • 2.Human minds sometimes fail to grasp ideas (e.g., errors, forgetting); this incompleteness suggests ideas exist independently of individual perception.
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    • 3.The origin of ideas in finite minds requires explanation; a divine intellect as source doesn't contradict their intrinsic modification within us.
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