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    If names lack Fregean senses, co-referring names like 'Hesperus' and 'Phosphorus' yield identical Fregean and Russellian propositions, collapsing the alleged fine-grainedness asymmetry.

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    Bertrand Russell
    Bertrand Russell was a British philosopher, logician, and social activist (1872-1970) who became famous for trying to show that mathematics could be built from pure logic, and for his clear, witty writing that made complex ideas accessible to everyday readers. He also became a public intellectual who spoke out on major issues like nuclear weapons, religion, and social justice, earning the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1950. Today, he's remembered as one of the most important thinkers of the 20th century who believed philosophy should tackle real-world problems, not just abstract puzzles.
    Co-referring names(philosophy of language)
    Different names or words that point to the same thing in the world. For instance, 'Superman' and 'Clark Kent' are co-referring because they both refer to the same person.
    Fine-grainedness(philosophy of language)
    The quality of making detailed distinctions between things. A 'fine-grained' theory treats things as different even if they seem similar; a coarse-grained theory treats them as the same.
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    The meaning or idea associated with a word or name, distinct from what the word actually points to—for example, 'the morning star' and 'the evening star' have different senses but refer to the same object (Venus).
    Gottlob Frege(historical philosopher)
    A late 19th and early 20th-century German philosopher and logician who made fundamental contributions to understanding how language and meaning work.
    Hesperus and Phosphorus(as a historical philosophical reference)
    Two ancient names for the same celestial object (the planet Venus), used as a famous philosophical example because people didn't realize they referred to the same thing.
    Russellian proposition(Philosophy of language; contrasted with Fregean propositions and intensions)
    A propositional content that corresponds many-one to intensions
    asymmetry(Modal logic frame semantics)
    A frame property expressible in hybrid logic by the formula c→□¬◇c, meaning if world x accesses world y, then y does not access x.

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