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    Challenges→Minds are more abstract than the physical or computational systems that realize them.

    If no contradiction arises in the physical substrate across time, the argument from mutual exclusivity fails to establish that minds must be abstract.

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    • 1.Physical continuity without contradiction suffices for identity; abstract entities lack spatiotemporal location and cannot interact causally.
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    • 2.Mutual exclusivity arguments assume mind and brain properties cannot coexist in one substrate, but property dualism allows both physical and mental properties.
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    • 3.If physical processes preserve all information necessary for mental continuity, positing abstract minds as separate entities violates parsimony.
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    • 1.Absence of logical contradiction in physical substrate doesn't establish sufficiency; the hard problem suggests qualitative consciousness resists physical explanation.
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    • 2.Mutual exclusivity targets the metaphysical relation itself: even if substrate is consistent, abstract properties might still be necessarily non-physical.
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    • 3.Physical continuity preserves structure but not necessarily subjective experience; identity requires accounting for phenomenal consciousness, not just substrate coherence.
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