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    If presentism is true, then any genuine occurrence must b... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→A-occurring does not entail B-occurring.

    If presentism is true, then any genuine occurrence must be locatable at some temporal B-series position, collapsing A-occurrence into B-occurrence.

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    • 1.Presentism denies the reality of past and future; only the present exists with determinate properties.
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    • 2.B-series positions (earlier/later relations) are the only objective temporal framework available to locate events.
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    • 3.A-series properties (pastness, presentness, futurity) are mind-dependent or lack causal efficacy; genuine occurrences require B-series locatability.
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    • 1.A-series properties constitute the essential phenomenology of temporal experience; collapsing them loses something real about becoming.
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    • 2.B-series positions are relational and comparative; they cannot alone explain why events occur *now* rather than merely their eternal relations.
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    • 3.Presentism's denial of past/future may preserve A-properties as fundamental, making the collapse unjustified rather than entailed.
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