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    If prime matter persists through elemental transformation... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→No natural element (earth, fire, water, air) can qualify as a being (as having being).

    If prime matter persists through elemental transformations, at least one natural substrate has a persistent being that grounds change rather than being undermined by it.

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    • 1.Change requires a continuity of identity; without persistent substrate, there is nothing that actually changes versus ceases and begins anew.
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    • 2.Elemental transformations exhibit lawful regularity suggesting an invariant foundation; pure flux cannot ground reproducible natural patterns.
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    • 3.If all being were dependent on accidental properties, change would be unintelligible; something must remain self-identical through transformation.
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    • 1.Modern physics reveals no invariant material substrate—only fields and energy states that transform fundamentally; prime matter is empirically vacuous.
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    • 2.Positing prime matter solves nothing: it must itself have properties to ground change, making it not truly prime or creating infinite regress.
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    • 3.Change can be intelligible as the relational reorganization of parts without requiring a persistent substrate; process ontology explains transformation adequately.
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