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    It is not the case that If 'she will visit' is timelessly true, no future decision can 'make' it true—it already has its truth value independently of any cause.

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    • 1.Future contingents differ fundamentally from past statements: they describe open possibilities, not completed facts, so timeless truth assignments may be inapplicable.
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    • 2.Causation is asymmetrical—decisions causally produce outcomes, not vice versa. Timeless truth being 'independent' of causes simply restates the problem without resolving it.
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    • 3.Presentism and growing-block views coherently deny timeless truth-values exist at all, preserving both logic and free agency without contradiction.
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    • 1.Truth is a property statements possess independently of time. Past statements about Caesar were true before Caesar acted; future statements work identically.
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    • 2.If a statement can become true through a decision, that decision must cause its truth value to change from false to true, violating logical law of non-contradiction.
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    • 3.Our inability to know future truth values does not entail those truths don't exist timelessly; epistemic limits don't constrain metaphysical reality.
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