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    If 'she will visit' is timelessly true, no future decisio... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Present truths about future events are made true by future decisions, not the reverse.

    If 'she will visit' is timelessly true, no future decision can 'make' it true—it already has its truth value independently of any cause.

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    • 1.Truth is a property statements possess independently of time. Past statements about Caesar were true before Caesar acted; future statements work identically.
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    • 2.If a statement can become true through a decision, that decision must cause its truth value to change from false to true, violating logical law of non-contradiction.
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    • 3.Our inability to know future truth values does not entail those truths don't exist timelessly; epistemic limits don't constrain metaphysical reality.
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    • 1.Future contingents differ fundamentally from past statements: they describe open possibilities, not completed facts, so timeless truth assignments may be inapplicable.
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    • 2.Causation is asymmetrical—decisions causally produce outcomes, not vice versa. Timeless truth being 'independent' of causes simply restates the problem without resolving it.
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    • 3.Presentism and growing-block views coherently deny timeless truth-values exist at all, preserving both logic and free agency without contradiction.
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