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    Challenges→Self-identification with the mind-body-sense complex is not fully real.

    If the mind-body complex causally grounds all experience, moral agency, and psychological continuity, dismissing it as 'not fully real' undermines the very framework needed to explain suffering and liberation.

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    • 1.Moral accountability requires causal agents; if mind-body is illusory, praise/blame become incoherent.
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    • 2.Suffering's reality grounds therapeutic intervention; dismissing its physical substrate denies genuine harm.
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    • 3.Psychological continuity depends on brain states; denying embodied mind severs memory from identity.
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    • 1.Non-dual traditions argue consciousness transcends causality; mind-body causation describes appearance, not ultimate reality.
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    • 2.Liberation may require recognizing mind-body as ultimately empty; treating it as foundational perpetuates attachment.
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    • 3.Functional explanations work without ontological commitment; causation can be pragmatically real yet metaphysically derivative.
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    Key Terms

    Causally grounds(as used in metaphysics and epistemology)
    Serves as the fundamental cause or explanation for something; makes it happen or exist.
    Liberation(Post-civil-rights era Black political vocabulary)
    The watchword for the new agenda concerning Black people and people of African descent, replacing prior framings
    framework(Carnap's philosophy of language and logic)
    A structured system of rules or language that must be in place for rational discourse to be possible.
    mind-body complex(as used in philosophy of mind)
    The combination of your mental experiences (thoughts, feelings) and your physical body working together as one unified system.
    moral agency(Debated in the context of whether AI systems can qualify as moral agents)
    The status of being an entity toward which others have moral duties, and which may itself bear moral duties.
    psychological continuity(Philosophy of personal identity)
    A relation holding between a person at one time and a being at a later time when the later being inherits the memories, intentions, beliefs, and psychological states of the earlier person.

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