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    It is not the case that If the set of souls destined for salvation or reprobation is determined entirely by divine decree antecedent to creation, then human procreative acts merely determine which predetermined souls are instantiated, not their eternal fate.

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    • 1.Divine decree and human free choice need not be understood as temporally ordered; God's knowledge operates outside temporal sequence.
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    • 2.A soul's eternal fate could depend constitutively on the free choices of its instantiated person, making decree and destiny inseparable.
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    • 3.The distinction between 'which souls exist' and 'their fate' may be artificial if souls lack identity conditions independent of their actualization.
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    • 1.Divine omniscience entails God knows all actualized facts before creation, including which souls will exist and their ultimate destinies.
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    • 2.If God's decrees are temporally prior to creation, they cannot be causally dependent on human choices that occur within time.
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    • 3.Procreation determines identity and instantiation of souls, not their metaphysical properties already established by divine decree.
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