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    It is not the case that If two events are B-simultaneous and they B-occur, they are A-simultaneous.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.A-simultaneity requires a shared subjective 'now', which is indexical and perspective-dependent, not reducible to objective B-location.
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    • 2.Two events at the same B-location may fail to be A-simultaneous for observers in different reference frames, per special relativity.
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    • 3.McTaggart's A-series generates contradictions precisely because 'now' shifts, meaning B-simultaneity cannot fix A-simultaneity without vicious regress.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.B-theory eliminates genuine A-properties entirely, so 'B-occurring' events cannot instantiate A-simultaneity, which presupposes A-series reality.
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    • 2.The inference smuggles in presentism by treating one B-location as privileged 'now', which B-theorists like Mellor explicitly deny is coherent.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.A-simultaneity is defined as occurring 'at the same now'.
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    • 2.B-simultaneity is having the same temporal B-location in some B-series.
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    • 3.If two events are located at the same B-temporal location that is now, they share the same now and thus A-occur at the same now.
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