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    If value can obtain independently of a experiencing subje... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→Absurdism must logically accept life as the one necessary good

    If value can obtain independently of a experiencing subject, then life's continuation is not a logical precondition for the goods absurdism identifies.

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    • 1.Mathematical truths and logical relationships exist independently of minds; value could similarly obtain as objective features of reality.
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    • 2.Absurdism's goods (freedom, passion, revolt) describe ways of engaging with meaning; these goods don't require life's continuation to be real.
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    • 3.A single moment of authentic rebellion contains complete value; it need not extend temporally to possess worth independent of the subject's existence.
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    • 1.Absurdism's goods are fundamentally about human experience—revolt and freedom are states only a subject can instantiate or appreciate.
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    • 2.If value obtained independently, we'd need an account of what 'obtaining' means without any ontological ground; this seems incoherent.
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    • 3.Camus defines the absurd through the confrontation between human need for meaning and the universe's silence—this requires an experiencing subject.
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