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    IIT's mathematical formalism begins with consciousness as... — Carmelics
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    Supports→IIT's axioms (existence, intrinsicality, information, integration, exclusion) are stipulated from human conscious experience and cannot be extrapolated to arbitrary physical systems without circularity.

    IIT's mathematical formalism begins with consciousness as input, then derives consciousness as output, creating circular reasoning rather than independent derivation.

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