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    Challenges→IIT implies a form of panpsychism.

    IIT's axioms (existence, intrinsicality, information, integration, exclusion) are stipulated from human conscious experience and cannot be extrapolated to arbitrary physical systems without circularity.

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    • 1.IIT's five axioms directly mirror phenomenological properties (unity, irreducibility, structure) observed only in human consciousness, suggesting anthropomorphic bias.
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    • 2.Applying IIT to systems lacking reportable experience (thermostats, plants) requires assuming the axioms hold universally—a premise never independently justified.
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    • 3.IIT's mathematical formalism begins with consciousness as input, then derives consciousness as output, creating circular reasoning rather than independent derivation.
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    • 1.Physical axioms (conservation laws, symmetries) are also 'stipulated' from observation yet successfully predict systems far removed from their empirical origin.
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    • 2.IIT's axioms describe structural properties (integration, differentiation) that could apply to any system processing information, not merely conscious phenomena.
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    • 3.Circularity objection conflates *motivation* (how we discovered axioms) with *logical validity* (whether they correctly characterize consciousness if true).
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    Circularity (circular reasoning)(as used in logic and epistemology)
    A logical problem where you need to assume something is true in order to prove it, making your argument go in circles instead of actually proving anything.
    Extrapolated(describing whether IIT's axioms can be applied to all physical systems)
    Extended or applied beyond the original situation to new cases, often by assuming the same rules apply everywhere.
    IIT(the theory being critiqued in this statement)
    Short for Integrated Information Theory, a scientific framework that tries to explain consciousness by measuring how much information is integrated (combined) in the brain.
    Physical systems(what IIT might be applied to beyond human experience)
    Any arrangement of matter or energy in the universe—could be a brain, a computer, a rock, or anything else made of physical stuff.
    axioms(Stumpf, 1891)
    Propositions that we assume to be true and necessary, originating in the content of judgments.
    exclusion(Applied to collective associations such as devotional communities, recreational clubs, business clubs, unions, and nations)
    The capacity of an association to determine the criteria by which members are selected, thereby defining the association's identity and the values, beliefs, or interests it represents.
    integration(Raymond's contrast between integration and integrity as models of selfhood and liberation)
    Putting together parts to form a complex whole; a blending of previously distinct elements such as masculine and feminine
    intrinsicality(representational features of reductive explanation)
    A representational feature concerning how what is 'internal' and 'external' are explicitly or implicitly distinguished in reductive explanations.

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