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    InternalB relations cannot serve as the relating relation between A and B, because they generate an infinite process of division rather than genuine relatedness.

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    • 1.An internalB relation is fully determined by the intrinsic natures of its relata, meaning it adds no additional unifying structure beyond those natures.
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    • 2.If the relation adds no unifying structure, then what appears as relatedness is merely the co-presence of qualities, which itself demands further grounding.
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    • 3.This demand for further grounding initiates Regress 2: each attempted ground dissolves into constituent parts requiring yet another unifier, producing infinite division.
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    • 1.Russell's early analysis of relations distinguished external relations as genuinely unifying from internal relations that reduce to predications of the relata themselves.
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    • 2.If relatedness reduces to predications of the relata, then the relation is not a real constituent binding A and B but a shadow cast by their natures, incapable of genuine unification.
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    • 3.Without genuine unification, the 'connection' between A and B fragments into ever-finer intrinsic characterizations, reproducing the infinite regress Bradley diagnosed.
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    • 1.If a relation R is 'nothing to the qualities' (i.e., an internalB relation), then A and B will not merely fail to be related but will undergo an infinite process of division, as demonstrated in Regress 2.
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    • 2.Bradley's Regress 2 shows that internalB relations dissolve into an infinite division rather than unifying their relata.
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    In this regress, Bradley is employing the phrases “being nothing to the qualities” and “being something to the qualities,” but he doesn’t explain what he means by these phrases. If, however, Bradley is to be consistent with his previous claims, relations that are “nothing to the qualities” have to be his internalB relations which he dismissed with Regress 2, and relations that are “something to the qualities” have to be his “independent” relations which he dismissed with Regress 1. We should thu
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