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    It is not the case that It is not that the debt can be paid

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 3
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    • An unpaid debt is unjust
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    Reason for 2 of 3
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    • God would not institute an unjust system
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    Reason for 3 of 3
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    • If the above is true, then the debt can be paid
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.Justice requires proportionality between offense and consequence; an offense against infinite holiness generates infinite moral weight (Jonathan Edwards, 'The Justice of God in the Damnation of Sinners').
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    • 2.No finite sequence of suffering, however prolonged, achieves equivalence with infinite moral weight—eternal torment is thus not payment but ongoing proportionate consequence.
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    • 3.A system where consequences track the nature of the offense rather than its satisfiability is just, not unjust—defeating the objection that God institutes injustice.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Some moral violations constitute infinite offenses against an infinite being, rendering finite payment categorically impossible (Anselm, Cur Deus Homo).
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    • 2.A categorically impossible debt is not 'unjust' to leave unpaid—it is simply beyond the architecture of finite restitution.
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