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    It is not the case that It is possible that God must permit a large number of people to damn themselves in order to fill heaven with a larger number of redeemed.

    ?Set your confidence on the premises below to see your aggregate.

    Reasons For

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    • 1.Alvin Plantinga's 'transworld depravity' shows free creatures may resist God in every feasible world, making the redeemed-requiring-damned thesis contingent rather than necessary.
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    • 2.A claim of mere logical possibility cannot justify actual eternal suffering without demonstrating that no morally equivalent alternative world was feasible for God.
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    • 3.Using damned souls instrumentally as conditions for others' salvation treats persons as means, violating the Kantian constraint that even divine ends cannot justify such use of rational beings.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.An omnipotent God could actualize a world where the freely redeemed exist without requiring any souls to damn themselves eternally.
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    • 2.If God cannot create such a world, this constitutes a limitation on divine power that undermines classical theism's conception of omnipotence.
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    Reasons Against

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    • Some persons would submit to God freely only in a world in which others damn themselves forever.
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