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    It would be needless for God to give us our ideas indirec... — Carmelics
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    Challenges→God would not create mind-independent external objects to cause ideas in us

    It would be needless for God to give us our ideas indirectly by creating independent objects to cause ideas in us

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    This begins the more purely metaphysical part of Collier’s argument: that to be visible is to be in the mind we can consider an epistemological premise, but then he argues that nothing can be both visible and invisible at the same time, which is of course quite true independently of epistemology. A further argument he makes is that since God can give created minds any ideas directly, it would be needless for him to give us our ideas indirectly, by creating independent objects to cause ideas in u

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