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    Supports→Identity phenomenalism is incompatible with Kant's argument in the Refutation of Idealism

    Kant's Refutation requires that outer objects serving as the permanent substratum of time-determination are mind-independent in the transcendental sense.

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    • 1.Kant's Refutation requires a permanent substrate to distinguish genuine time-determination from mere subjective succession of representations.
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    • 2.Only mind-independent objects can serve as this substrate, since mind-dependent objects would themselves require time-determination via another substrate.
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    • 3.Transcendental mind-independence (existing independently of individual minds' representations) is weaker than empirical independence, making it a reasonable requirement.
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    • 1.Kant's own idealism about space and time undermines requiring transcendentally mind-independent objects; they exist only as forms of our intuition.
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    • 2.The regress argument for a permanent substrate conflates logical necessity with metaphysical requirement; synthetic unity of apperception may ground time without external objects.
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    • 3.Kant's Refutation succeeds by establishing only that we represent outer objects as permanent, not that they must be transcendentally mind-independent in fact.
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