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    It is not the case that Matter cannot be a thing in itself with characteristics independent of human perception.

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    Reasons For

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    • 1.Causal explanations of perceptual variation require positing mind-independent properties that systematically produce specific appearances.
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    • 2.If matter had no independent characteristics, the regularity and predictability of perceptual experience would be inexplicable.
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    • 3.The best explanation for perceptual convergence across observers is that matter constrains perception from outside it.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Scientific structural realism holds that physics describes real relational structures of the world, not merely human-relative appearances.
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    • 2.Mathematical invariances in physical law—like charge-mass ratios—remain constant across all reference frames, including non-human ones.
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    • 3.Wigner's 'unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics' is better explained by mind-independent structure than by the contingencies of human cognition.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.What we call matter is an appearance.
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    • 2.Shape, contact, and movement characterize only objects as presented to us, not mind-independent external reality.
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