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    Memory continuity as a necessary condition for personal i... — Carmelics
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    Memory continuity as a necessary condition for personal identity is not trivially uninformative.

    Personal Identity
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    • 1.We can know that a corpse resulting from a person's death cannot remember any events from that person's life without already knowing whether the corpse is identical to that person.
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    • 2.Necessary conditions can be verified independently of knowing the identity relation holds, unlike sufficient conditions in this case.
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    • 1.Reid's objection shows memory criteria are circular: remembering an action presupposes being the person who performed it.
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    • 2.A necessary condition that cannot be verified without presupposing the identity it grounds collapses into uninformativeness.
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    • 1.Shoemaker and Parfit demonstrate that psychological continuity, not episodic memory specifically, does the real explanatory work in personal identity.
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    • 2.If memory is merely a contingent indicator of deeper psychological connectedness, its necessity condition status is derivative and thus trivially borrowed from a more fundamental criterion.
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    Notable Defenders

    Marya SchechtmancontemporarySchechtman 1996: esp. ch. 5, 2001
    Schroer and SchroercontemporarySchroer and Schroer 2014

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    Second, it seems to belong to the very idea of remembering that you can remember only your own experiences. To remember paying a fine (or the experience of it) is to remember yourself paying. That makes it trivial and uninformative to say that you are the person whose experiences you can remember—that memory continuity is sufficient for us to persist. It’s uninformative because you cannot know whether someone genuinely remembers a past experience without already knowing whether she is the one wh
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