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    Mobs can be held collectively responsible even though the... — Carmelics
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    Mobs can be held collectively responsible even though they lack formal decision-making procedures and organized structure.

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    • 1.At least some mob members contribute directly to harm.
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    • 2.Other mob members either facilitate these contributions or fail to prevent them.
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    • 3.When members contribute, facilitate, or fail to prevent harm, all mob members are 'implicated' in mob action.
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    • 1.Moral responsibility requires that an agent could have done otherwise, which presupposes a deliberative structure through which alternatives were genuinely available.
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    • 2.Mobs are constituted by emergent crowd dynamics—contagion, deindividuation, and diffusion of responsibility—that systematically undermine individual deliberative capacity.
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    • 3.Where the structural conditions for deliberation are absent, the attribution of collective responsibility collapses into either scapegoating individuals or punishing mere presence.
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    • 1.H.L.A. Hart's demand for 'capacity responsibility' requires that a bearer of responsibility possess the cognitive and volitional capacities to have acted differently.
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    • 2.Collective responsibility attributed to unstructured mobs cannot satisfy Hart's capacity condition because there is no agent—individual or collective—that possessed unified volitional control over the harmful outcome.
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    • 3.'Implication' through facilitation or omission, absent a shared intentional structure, redistributes guilt by association rather than grounding genuine liability.
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    Mobs are often thought to be the last groups that we should be tying to hold collectively responsible. For, they completely lack decision-making procedures, their members are seemingly not related, and they are often chaotic and irrational. But, Larry May (1987), Raimo Tuomela (1989), and others argue, we can nevertheless hold mobs collectively responsible if at least some of their members contribute directly to harm and others either facilitate these contributions or fail to prevent them. For,
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