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    It is not the case that Moral constraints derive their force from consequences for welfare, not from the intrinsic status of persons as ends.

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    • 1.Some acts violate persons fundamentally (slavery, genocide) regardless of aggregate welfare; consequentialism permits them if benefits suffice.
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    • 2.The intrinsic wrongness of treating persons as mere tools is independent of outcomes; we owe duties to individuals as ends, not receptacles.
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    • 3.Welfare is itself derivative from respect for persons' autonomy and rights; consequences matter *because* persons matter intrinsically.
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    • 1.Moral intuitions about harm align with welfare consequences: we condemn torture because it causes suffering, not due to abstract dignity.
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    • 2.Competing moral claims become resolvable only by reference to welfare outcomes; intrinsic status provides no decision procedure.
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    • 3.Persons lacking capacity for welfare (unconscious beings) lack moral standing, suggesting welfare, not personhood, grounds moral consideration.
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