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    It is not the case that Mortality is good.

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Categorical desires can be renewed and transformed over time rather than exhausted, as Goethe's lifelong creative development illustrates.
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    • 2.Williams conflates the contingent psychological trajectory of contemporary humans with a necessary feature of any possible immortal life.
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    • 3.A being with sufficient time could cultivate entirely new frameworks of meaning unavailable to mortals, generating fresh categorical desires.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Personal identity can persist through radical psychological change, as Parfit's reductionist account allows for continuity via overlapping chains of connectedness.
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    • 2.If the bored immortal is not 'us,' the same logic threatens the rationality of prudential concern for any sufficiently distant future self, undermining Williams's own framework.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.If we live long enough, eventually we will lose our categorical desires.
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    • 2.Once we lose our categorical desires, we will no longer be motivated to live on, and oppressive boredom will set in.
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    • 3.When we contemplate this fate from our present vantage point, it is not even clear that these bored seniors are us.
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