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    Mortality is good. — Carmelics
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    Mortality is good.

    Afterlife & Death
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    • 1.If we live long enough, eventually we will lose our categorical desires.
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    • 2.Once we lose our categorical desires, we will no longer be motivated to live on, and oppressive boredom will set in.
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    • 3.When we contemplate this fate from our present vantage point, it is not even clear that these bored seniors are us.
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    • 1.Categorical desires can be renewed and transformed over time rather than exhausted, as Goethe's lifelong creative development illustrates.
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    • 2.Williams conflates the contingent psychological trajectory of contemporary humans with a necessary feature of any possible immortal life.
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    • 3.A being with sufficient time could cultivate entirely new frameworks of meaning unavailable to mortals, generating fresh categorical desires.
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    • 1.Personal identity can persist through radical psychological change, as Parfit's reductionist account allows for continuity via overlapping chains of connectedness.
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    • 2.If the bored immortal is not 'us,' the same logic threatens the rationality of prudential concern for any sufficiently distant future self, undermining Williams's own framework.
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    Afterlife & Death

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    Virtue Ethics1 linkedDivine Attributes1 linked
    Order is good

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    SEP: death
    Williams
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    The bearing on death, according to Williams, is, first, that we have good reason to condemn a death that is premature in the sense that it thwarts our categorical desires. Second, mortality is good, for if we live long enough, eventually we will lose our categorical desires. At that point we will no longer be motivated to live on, and oppressive boredom will set in. When we contemplate this fate from our vantage point in the present, we find it that it is not even clear to us that these bored seniors are us.
    Extraction notes

    Validity: The premises accurately reflect the reasoning presented in the source passage and collectively support the conclusion that mortality is good by showing that indefinite life would lead to loss of categorical desires, oppressive boredom, and a loss of personal identity.

    Williams conflates the contingent psychological trajectory of contemporary human...

    Confidence: Clear argument presented as Williams's second point about the bearing on death.

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