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    Most people are effectively Epicureans in practice, regar... — Carmelics
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    Most people are effectively Epicureans in practice, regardless of self-identification

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    • 1.Most people are susceptible to sensual gratification
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    • 2.One need not call oneself an Epicurean in order to practice Epicurean teachings
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    • 3.The world is filled with those who are slaves to lust
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    • 1.Epicureanism is not reducible to sensual indulgence; Epicurus himself advocated ataraxia through moderation, friendship, and philosophical contemplation.
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    • 2.Conflating 'susceptibility to pleasure' with 'Epicurean practice' commits a category error that misrepresents the doctrine's actual ethical content.
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    • 3.Aristotle's akratic agent pursues pleasure against their own rational judgment, which is precisely the condition Epicurus sought to cure, not endorse.
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    • 1.Stoic and Aristotelian traditions identify habituated virtue as the default human orientation toward the good, not hedonic self-indulgence.
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    • 2.MacIntyre's account in 'After Virtue' demonstrates that social practices embed teleological norms that structurally resist reduction to pleasure-seeking.
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    Those whom John labels Epicureans are so branded not because of any self-proclaimed adherence to the school of Epicurus, but rather because of their observable behaviors and deeds. Excess is the defining characteristic of Epicureans, “who in all matters serve their own personal desires” (PC: 182). Because they “teach philosophy and … serve their own private wills”, they are also hypocrites (PC: 175). Despite John’s flexible standard for evaluating moderation, he finds that “the world is filled w
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