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    It is not the case that Most people are effectively Epicureans in practice, regardless of self-identification

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    • 1.Epicureanism is not reducible to sensual indulgence; Epicurus himself advocated ataraxia through moderation, friendship, and philosophical contemplation.
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    • 2.Conflating 'susceptibility to pleasure' with 'Epicurean practice' commits a category error that misrepresents the doctrine's actual ethical content.
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    • 3.Aristotle's akratic agent pursues pleasure against their own rational judgment, which is precisely the condition Epicurus sought to cure, not endorse.
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    • 1.Stoic and Aristotelian traditions identify habituated virtue as the default human orientation toward the good, not hedonic self-indulgence.
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    • 2.MacIntyre's account in 'After Virtue' demonstrates that social practices embed teleological norms that structurally resist reduction to pleasure-seeking.
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    • 1.Most people are susceptible to sensual gratification
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    • 2.One need not call oneself an Epicurean in order to practice Epicurean teachings
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    • 3.The world is filled with those who are slaves to lust
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