Skip to content
Carmelics
TopicsThinkersChangesContributorsLoading account…

    Carmelics

    A reasoning platform. Break down any belief into clear reasons, explore both sides, and weigh the evidence honestly.

    Navigate

    • Topics
    • Search
    • Recent Changes
    • Contribute
    • How It Works
    • Glossary
    • Thinkers
    • Contributors
    • About
    • Statistics
    • Terms
    • Privacy

    Database

    Statements
    —
    Perspectives
    —
    Topics
    —

    Press ? for keyboard shortcuts

    LoyalLoyalJusticeJustice
    Made withinDC&Austin
    Statements
    321,452
    Perspectives
    108,905
    Topics
    42
    Most people think 50–50 splits are fair and worth maintai... — Carmelics
    Home/Justice & Punishment
    HistoryEditSee Inverse

    Most people think 50–50 splits are fair and worth maintaining through moral and institutional reward and sanction because humans are products of a dynamic game that promoted this tendency.

    Virtue Ethics
    ?Rate how convincing each reason is below to see the overall strength.
    1 reason for
    2 reasons against

    Reasons For

    1 perspective
    Reason for
    ?
    • 1.There is evolutionary pressure for moral approval of justice and just institutions to arise.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.Human moral intuitions are shaped by the dynamic games that produced them.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reasons Against

    2 perspectives
    Reason against 1 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Rawls argues principles of justice are grounded in rational choice behind a veil of ignorance, not in contingent evolutionary pressures.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.An evolutionary origin story commits a naturalistic fallacy: that humans evolved toward 50-50 splits does not entail such splits are morally fair or worth sanctioning.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 3.G.E. Moore's open question argument holds that any natural property, including evolutionary fitness, remains distinct from genuine moral goodness.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Reason against 2 of 2
    ?
    • 1.Cross-cultural empirical data (Henrich et al., 2001) shows ultimatum game splits vary dramatically across societies, undermining universal 50-50 norms.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    • 2.If the tendency toward equal splits were evolutionarily fixed, we would not observe the cultural variance documented in behavioral economics fieldwork.
      ?

      Think about whether this reason is strong or weak

    Sign in or register to share your perspective on this statement.

    Next step

    Based on where you are in your exploration

    Strongest counterpoint
    Explore the most compelling reason on the other side.

    Topics

    Justice & PunishmentVirtue Ethics

    Key Terms

    50-50 splits(as used in fairness and ethics)
    An equal division of something (like money, resources, or benefits) between two people or groups, where each gets exactly half.
    Dynamic game(as used in game theory and evolutionary psychology)
    A situation where multiple players make choices that affect each other's outcomes, and the situation changes over time based on those choices.
    Evolutionary tendency(as used in evolutionary biology and philosophy)
    A behavior or preference that humans developed over time because it helped our ancestors survive and reproduce successfully.
    Fair(as used in moral philosophy)
    Just and reasonable; treating everyone according to what they deserve or in a way that respects equal treatment.
    Institutional reward and sanction(as used in social philosophy)
    Official systems of incentives (rewards for good behavior) and punishments (penalties for bad behavior) enforced by organizations like governments or companies.
    Moral(as used in ethics and philosophy)
    Related to ideas about right and wrong, good and bad behavior, and how we should treat each other.

    Connections

    2 topics

    Consequentialism1 linkedMoral Responsibility1 linked

    Related

    An evolutionary origin story commits a naturalistic fallacy: that humans evolved...Cross-cultural empirical data (Henrich et al., 2001) shows ultimatum game splits...

    Source

    AI-extracted1/3 agreementValid
    SEP: game-theory
    View source passageHide passage
    Much of political philosophy consists in attempts to produce deductive normative arguments intended to convince an unjust agent that she has reasons to act justly. Skyrms’s analysis suggests a quite different approach. Fairman will do best of all in the dynamic game if he takes active steps to preserve correlation. Therefore, there is evolutionary pressure for both moral approval of justice and just institutions to arise. Most people may think that 50–50 splits are ‘fair’, and worth maintaining
    Extraction notes

    Validity: Extracted via Max plan + API grounding/validity checks

    Details

    G.E. Moore's open question argument holds that any natural property, including e...
    Human moral intuitions are shaped by the dynamic games that produced them.
    +3 moreShow less
    If the tendency toward equal splits were evolutionarily fixed, we would not obse...Rawls argues principles of justice are grounded in rational choice behind a veil...There is evolutionary pressure for moral approval of justice and just institutio...

    Similar

    Most people intuitively think that it is important to punish wrongdoer...70%The retributive intuition that wrongdoers deserve punishment is widely...69%Giving up the idea that morality imposes a proportionality limit on pu...68%Computer games can be designed to facilitate virtues such as empathy a...68%
    Type
    claim
    Perspectives
    3 (1 for, 2 against)
    Edits
    1 edit