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    It is not the case that Nations are entitled to their own states.

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    • 1.National identity is socially constructed and historically contingent, not a fixed natural kind that generates pre-political entitlements (Anderson, Hobsbawm).
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    • 2.Granting self-determination rights to nations incentivizes ethnic cleansing and minority persecution to manufacture the requisite demographic homogeneity.
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    • 3.A right that produces systematic violence against minorities in its exercise cannot be a genuine moral entitlement.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Rawlsian distributive justice applies to the basic structure of cooperating institutions, not to co-nationals specifically (Beitz, Pogge).
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    • 2.If solidarity sufficient for redistribution requires co-nationality, the obligation is to build cross-national solidarity rather than to balkanize states along national lines.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.States need to be mononational in order to achieve distributive justice.
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    • 2.Distributive justice requires significant redistribution of wealth among citizens.
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    • 3.The better off will only be willing to share their wealth with the less fortunate if they see them as co-nationals.
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    Reason against 2 of 2
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    • 1.Democracy can only flourish in mono-national states.
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    • 2.States containing more than one nation lack the solidarity, trust, or shared sentiments and values that democracy requires.
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