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    Nations are entitled to their own states. — Carmelics
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    Nations are entitled to their own states.

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    • 1.States need to be mononational in order to achieve distributive justice.
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    • 2.Distributive justice requires significant redistribution of wealth among citizens.
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    • 3.The better off will only be willing to share their wealth with the less fortunate if they see them as co-nationals.
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    • 1.Democracy can only flourish in mono-national states.
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    • 2.States containing more than one nation lack the solidarity, trust, or shared sentiments and values that democracy requires.
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    • 1.National identity is socially constructed and historically contingent, not a fixed natural kind that generates pre-political entitlements (Anderson, Hobsbawm).
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    • 2.Granting self-determination rights to nations incentivizes ethnic cleansing and minority persecution to manufacture the requisite demographic homogeneity.
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    • 3.A right that produces systematic violence against minorities in its exercise cannot be a genuine moral entitlement.
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    • 1.Rawlsian distributive justice applies to the basic structure of cooperating institutions, not to co-nationals specifically (Beitz, Pogge).
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    • 2.If solidarity sufficient for redistribution requires co-nationality, the obligation is to build cross-national solidarity rather than to balkanize states along national lines.
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    The second type of justification for the view that nations are entitled to their own states also has two variants: The first, which dates back at least to John Stuart Mill’s Considerations On Representative Government (Mill [1861] 1991), asserts that democracy can only flourish in mono-national states, because states in which there is more than one nation will be lacking in the solidarity, trust, or shared sentiments and values that democracy requires. The second, advanced by David Miller, asser
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    States containing more than one nation lack the solidarity, trust, or shared sen...
    States need to be mononational in order to achieve distributive justice.
    The better off will only be willing to share their wealth with the less fortunat...
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