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    It is not the case that Neither Socrates nor future Martian outposts exist

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    Reasons For

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    Reason for 1 of 2
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    • 1.Eternalism (four-dimensionalism) holds that past, present, and future entities all equally exist as temporal parts of spacetime.
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    • 2.Socrates exists as a fully real temporal segment of the block universe, occupying definite spacetime coordinates from ~470–399 BCE.
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    • 3.If eternalism is true, the presentist premise that 'only present objects exist' is false, undermining the entire argument.
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    Reason for 2 of 2
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    • 1.Possibilism, defended by Kripke and others, holds that merely possible and future entities have genuine ontological status as possible objects.
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    • 2.Future Martian outposts are not metaphysically impossible and occupy determinate positions in modal-temporal logical space.
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    • 3.If future contingents possess even minimal ontological standing, the claim that they simply 'do not exist' conflates non-actuality with non-existence.
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    Reasons Against

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    • 1.According to presentism, only present objects exist
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    • 2.Socrates's body ceased to be present shortly after he died
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    • 3.Future Martian outposts are not yet present
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