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    Challenges→A successful Ockhamist response to theological fatalism need not await the definitive formulation of necessary and sufficient conditions for soft facthood.

    Nelson Pike's original fatalist argument derives its force precisely from the claim that all past-tensed facts about God's beliefs are hard facts, making 'paradigm softness' a disputed assumption, not a neutral starting point.

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    • 1.God's past beliefs about future events are causally fixed and unalterable, sharing logical properties with hard facts about completed actions.
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    • 2.Pike's argument only succeeds if past divine beliefs constrain present possibilities; treating them as soft facts undermines his fatalist conclusion.
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    • 3.The burden should rest on those claiming divine past-tensed beliefs are soft—this requires a special metaphysical status not typically granted to beliefs.
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    • 1.The hard/soft fact distinction applies to events' susceptibility to change, not to metaphysical status; past beliefs remain unchangeable regardless of classification.
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    • 2.Treating divine beliefs as soft facts preserves human freedom without denying God's omniscience, offering the stronger philosophical position overall.
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    • 3.Pike assumes without argument that backward-looking temporal facts must be hard; this classification itself requires independent justification, not neutral grounding.
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    Disputed assumption(The statement argues that paradigm softness is disputed, not something everyone agrees on)
    A starting belief that philosophers disagree about rather than one everyone accepts as obvious.
    Hard facts(contrasted with soft facts to explain what makes past events truly unchangeable)
    Facts about the past that are completely independent and fixed—like 'it rained yesterday'—that cannot be changed or affected by anything else.
    Nelson Pike(the source being referenced)
    A 20th-century American philosopher who wrote influential work on whether God's knowledge of the future conflicts with human free will.
    Paradigm softness(The statement says this assumption is disputed rather than a neutral starting point)
    The assumption that certain kinds of facts are clearly examples of soft facts (facts that depend on the future); here used to describe an assumption that Pike's critics made.
    Past-tensed facts(The argument focuses on whether facts about God's past beliefs are unchangeable)
    True statements about things that happened in the past—facts that are now fixed and unchangeable.
    Soft facts(metaphysics and philosophy of time)
    In philosophy of time, facts about the past that somehow depend on or are flexible about future events, rather than being completely fixed and determined.
    fatalism(Presented as a consequence allegedly entailed by backward causation.)
    The view that all events are fixed in advance and inevitable, such that agents cannot do otherwise than they do.

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