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    Non-Modal versions of Retentionalism suffer from a serious problem with surplus content

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    • 1.Husserl's retention structure implies that past phases are held as modified, intentionally distinct contents, not re-experienced as fresh present moments.
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    • 2.If retained phases carry diminished, adumbrated intentional content rather than full phenomenal presence, the total apparent duration does not multiply across overlapping specious presents.
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    • 3.Non-modal retentionalism that collapses this Husserlian modification-gradient conflates intentional directedness with phenomenal re-instantiation, generating surplus content through a theoretical error rather than a structural feature of retention itself.
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    • 1.Dainton's overlap model stipulates that successive specious presents share experiential parts, meaning the same phenomenal content is not duplicated but jointly constituted across adjacent windows.
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    • 2.If shared phenomenal parts are counted only once across overlapping presents, the total apparent duration converges on objective elapsed time rather than multiplying per specious present.
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    • 3.The surplus-content objection therefore targets only non-modal versions that fail to incorporate a part-sharing or overlap constraint, leaving retentionalism with such constraints structurally intact.
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    • 1.Retentionalist specious presents form a close-packed continuum
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    • 2.Each specious present has an apparent duration (e.g., one second), independent of objective clock-time
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    • 3.If there are a hundred specious presents per objective second, then over ten objective seconds there are one thousand specious presents
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    The Non-Modal option has the advantage of ensuring that Retentionalist specious presents feature change and succession with maximal phenomenal immediacy – important for those who subscribe to the Immediacy Thesis (see §3) – but it also brings a serious disadvantage. To bring this out, let us suppose a single specious present has an apparent duration of around one second, e.g., enough to encompass two brief tones ‘do-re’. Since Retentionalist specious presents supposedly form a close-packed conti
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    The surplus-content objection therefore targets only non-modal versions that fai...
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