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    Norms and measures serve as the sovereign's primary instr... — Carmelics
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    Norms and measures serve as the sovereign's primary instrument of control over underlings

    Democracy & GovernanceSocial Contract
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    • 1.Underlings conceal their private interests and test their superior
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    • 2.The superior employs norms and measures to restrict underlings
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    • 3.Established norms and measures constitute the sovereign's treasure
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    • 1.Confucian political theory holds that virtue and ritual propriety (li) in the ruler generate voluntary compliance more reliably than codified measures.
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    • 2.Rulers who depend on external instruments of control signal their own lack of moral authority, inviting strategic manipulation rather than preventing it.
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    • 3.Xunzi argues that normative order sustained by coercive measures alone collapses when enforcement capacity weakens, revealing measures as insufficient instruments.
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    • 1.Weber's analysis of legitimate domination demonstrates that durable sovereign control rests on internalized authority beliefs, not technical instruments of surveillance.
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    • 2.Legalist norms and measures presuppose a monitoring infrastructure whose own agents face the same concealment problem the system was designed to solve, generating infinite regress.
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    The Yellow Emperor said: “A hundred battles a day are fought between the superior and his underlings.” The underlings conceal their private [interests], trying to test their superior; the superior employs norms and measures to restrict the underlings. Hence when norms and measures are established, they are the sovereign’s treasure; when the cliques and cabals are formed, they are the minister’s treasure. If the minister does not murder his ruler, it is because the cliques and cabals are not form
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