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    Not all pleasure and pain in the world is produced by the... — Carmelics
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    Not all pleasure and pain in the world is produced by the actions of virtuous or vicious people.

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    • Some pleasure and pain results from the operation of natural laws rather than from human agency.
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    • 1.Plantinga's free will defense extends to natural evil by attributing it to the free choices of non-human rational agents such as Satan.
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    • 2.If demonic agency is metaphysically coherent, then apparent counterexamples like earthquakes or disease may still be products of vicious willing.
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    • 3.The claim therefore fails to establish a genuine category of evil beyond the reach of agent-based moral explanation.
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    • 1.Within Augustinian and Leibnizian theodicy, natural evil is traceable to the Fall, making all suffering a consequence of moral agency.
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    • 2.If original sin or primordial free choices corrupt natural order itself, then natural-law-produced suffering remains rooted in vicious human (or angelic) action.
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    In response, Ross reminds us not all pleasure springs from the actions of virtuous people and not all pain springs from actions of vicious (RG 134). Some results from ‘the operation of natural laws’ (RG 134). Suppose, then, there are two worlds, W1 and W2. W1 contains virtuous people and W2 contains vicious people, and the two worlds contain equal amounts of pleasure, because although W1-type worlds usually contain more pleasure than W2-type worlds, W1’s extra virtue-generated pleasure is offset
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