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    Objects are wholly present at all temporal points of thei... — Carmelics
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    Objects are wholly present at all temporal points of their existence.

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    • 1.It is not natural to think of objects as having objects as their temporal parts.
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    • 2.If objects do not have temporal parts, then objects cannot be thought of as series of short-lived objects stacked end to end.
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    • 3.The only coherent alternative is that an object is wholly present at each moment of its existence.
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    • 1.Perdurance theory, defended by David Lewis in 'On the Plurality of Worlds,' holds that objects persist by having distinct temporal parts at each moment.
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    • 2.If objects have temporal parts analogous to spatial parts, then no single temporal stage constitutes the whole object.
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    • 3.Therefore, the claim that objects are wholly present at any given moment commits a mereological error by confusing a temporal stage with the whole persisting entity.
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    • 1.The problem of temporary intrinsics, identified by Lewis, shows that an object being bent at t1 and straight at t2 generates contradiction if the object is wholly present at both times.
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    • 2.Endurantism resolves this only by relativizing properties to times, which undermines the intuition that intrinsic properties belong to the object simpliciter rather than relationally.
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    • 3.The logical cost of preserving whole-presence is thus the abandonment of non-relational intrinsic predication, a consequence that destabilizes the very commonsense metaphysics the claim purports to defend.
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    Various problems can be raised for this account. The most obvious is that it does not, as stated, distinguish between substances and events. Some property-instances belong to events rather than substances. The performance of a symphony, for example, is an event, and it may possess the property, in one of its movements, of being allegro. It seems plausible that this particular case of something’s being allegro could not have been exemplified by another performance, but the performance might go on
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