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    On Mellor's account, we should not be able to remember perceiving precedence

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    • 1.On Mellor's account, perceiving temporal order requires retaining the first event in short-term memory while the second occurs.
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    • 2.Short-term memory retention during perception is functionally distinct from episodic memory that generates retrospective remembering.
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    • 3.If the perception of precedence is constituted by short-term memory, no additional memory trace of 'perceiving precedence' is formed to be later recalled.
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    • 1.Husserl's analysis of time-consciousness distinguishes retention (a phase of present perception) from recollection (a secondary act directed at the past).
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    • 2.If Mellor's short-term memory plays the structural role Husserl assigns to retention, it is consumed in constituting the experience rather than being its object.
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    • 3.What is consumed as a constitutive mechanism of experience cannot itself be the content of a subsequent episodic memory of that experience.
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    • 1.We only remember what we can genuinely perceive
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    • 2.If Mellor's account is right, perception of precedence involves short-term memory rather than genuine perception
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    Mellor’s proposal is that I perceive x precede y by virtue of the fact that my perception of x causally affects my perception of y. As I see the second hand in one position, I have in my short-term memory an image (or information in some form) of its immediately previous position, and this image affects my current perception. The result is a perception of movement. The perceived order of different positions need not necessarily be the same as the actual temporal order of those positions, but it
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