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    One acts unjustly if one fails to comply with the state's... — Carmelics
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    One acts unjustly if one fails to comply with the state's commands.

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    • 1.The state helps one discharge one's duties of justice.
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    • 2.Compliance with the state is necessary to the discharge of one's duties of justice.
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    • 1.States can and do issue commands that are themselves unjust, as when they mandate participation in slavery or genocide.
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    • 2.An agent who complies with an unjust command bears moral responsibility for the resulting injustice, not merely the state.
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    • 3.Therefore, compliance with state commands can itself constitute acting unjustly, refuting the claim's universality.
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    • 1.Rawls and Thoreau both establish that the duty to comply with law is conditional on the law meeting a threshold of basic justice.
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    • 2.A prima facie duty to obey just laws does not entail that non-compliance with any state command is unjust, since the duty is defeasible.
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    • 3.Conflating the state's instrumental role in coordinating justice with an absolute obligation to obey commits a non-sequitur from P1 and P2.
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    This argument may miss a central idea in the instrumentalist account of authority. The instrumentalist account is premised on the view that not only does the state help one discharge one's duties of justice; it asserts that compliance with the state is necessary to the discharge of one's duties. Hence, one acts unjustly if one fails to comply with the state's commands.
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