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    One may legitimately resent (and hence consider forgiving... — Carmelics
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    One may legitimately resent (and hence consider forgiving) only wrongs done to oneself.

    Forgiveness & Mercy
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    • 1.One does not have standing to resent or forgive someone unless one has been the victim of that person's wrongdoing.
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    • 2.It would be ludicrous to claim to forgive Hitler for what he did to the Jews if one was not a victim of those wrongs.
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    • 3.One may forgive someone for embezzling one's own funds because one is the victim in that case.
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    • 1.Third-party moral emotions like indignation are legitimate responses to wrongs done to others, and forgiveness is the overcoming of such emotions.
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    • 2.If a bystander's indignation at a wrong done to another is morally appropriate, then forgiving that wrong by overcoming that indignation is equally appropriate.
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    • 3.Jeffrie Murphy's own account of resentment as a self-regarding emotion does not preclude a structurally parallel account of other-regarding moral anger that grounds third-party forgiveness.
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    • 1.The victim's exclusive standing to forgive presupposes a sharp moral boundary between self and other that communitarian and care ethics traditions have shown to be philosophically contestable.
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    • 2.In close relationships of deep identification—parent and murdered child, for instance—the boundary between victim and proxy collapses sufficiently to ground legitimate forgiveness standing.
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    • 3.Charles Griswold and Margaret Walker both acknowledge that inherited or representative forgiveness occurs in recognized moral practices, suggesting the strict victim-only condition is descriptively and normatively inadequate.
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    Charles Griswold and Margaret Walker both acknowledge that inherited or represen...If a bystander's indignation at a wrong done to another is morally appropriate, ...In close relationships of deep identification—parent and murdered child, for ins...It would be ludicrous to claim to forgive Hitler for what he did to the Jews if ...
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    I do not have standing to resent or forgive you unless I have myself been the victim of your wrongdoing. I may forgive you for embezzling my funds; but it would be ludicrous for me, for example, to claim that I had decided to forgive Hitler for what he did to the Jews. I lack the proper standing for this. Thus, I may legitimately resent (and hence consider forgiving) only wrong done to me. (Murphy & Hampton 1988: 21, emphasis original)

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