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    It is not the case that Painting and music are best suited to represent objects in space and successions of events in time, respectively.

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    • 1.The claim rests on Lessing's arbitrary distinction in Laokoon, which conflates the medium's physical substrate with its representational capacity.
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    • 2.Natural signs do not communicate solely by resemblance; Goodman's analysis shows that artistic symbol systems are conventional and dense, not naturally iconic.
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    • 3.If natural signs communicated purely by resemblance, purely abstract music and non-representational painting would lack semiotic grounding, yet both demonstrably convey meaning.
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    • 1.Music can represent spatial relationships through harmonic tension and resolution, as Schopenhauer argued in representing the will's strivings across all dimensions.
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    • 2.Painting represents temporal succession through narrative sequencing within a single frame, as Lessing himself acknowledged in discussing the 'pregnant moment' technique.
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    • 1.Painting uses natural signs that communicate their objects by resemblance between the signs' fundamental properties and the objects' fundamental properties.
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    • 2.Music uses natural signs of succession.
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    • 3.Natural signs communicate through resemblance to their objects, making them suited to represent what they resemble.
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