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    Particular finite modes do not exist necessarily — Carmelics
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    Particular finite modes do not exist necessarily

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    • 1.Necessitarianism for finite modes would require finite modes to follow entirely from God's nature
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    • 2.Finite modes only partly follow from God's nature under Curley's interpretation
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    • 3.Partial following from God's nature is insufficient to transfer necessary existence to finite modes
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    • 1.If God's nature necessarily includes all its modes of expression, then every finite mode is an eternal logical consequence of the one substance.
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    • 2.Spinoza's Ethics 1p16 establishes that infinitely many things follow necessarily from God's nature in infinitely many ways, with no exception for finite modes.
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    • 3.A necessary consequence of a necessarily existing being inherits that necessity, making the distinction between infinite and finite modes modally arbitrary.
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    • 1.Curley's mediating interpretation requires causal chains outside God's absolute nature, but Spinoza explicitly denies any ontological ground external to God in Ethics 1p15.
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    • 2.If finite modes depend entirely on immanent causation within the one substance, then their causal insufficiency relative to God's nature is a distinction without modal force.
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    If Curley is correct, then because finite modes are only partially determined by infinite modes, the modal transfer principle will not apply to finite modes. (One assumption here is that condition (i) requires following from entirely.) This blocks necessitarianism, since no finite mode would follow entirely from something that exists necessarily. Thus, Curley’s interpretation concludes, particular finite modes do not exist necessarily, despite (partly) following from God’s nature. Hence full-blo
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