Perdurantists distinguish two ways of talking about persisting things: an atemporal way that takes in all times at once, and a temporal way relative to various times

Is this a good explanation of change? One objection is that perdurance-style temporal variation is not really change at all:  the whole four-dimensional banana is neither unripe nor overripe, so can’t change between these states, and the temporal parts are either permanently unripe or permanently overripe, so they don’t change either. In response, perdurantists distinguish two ways of talking about persisting things – an atemporal way, which takes in all times at once, and a temporal way of talk