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    Phenomenology as a rigorous science must limit its study to objects of immanent perception rather than transcendent external objects.

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    • 1.Three-dimensional external objects are never exhaustively presented in perception — they are always given from a partial point of view, leaving room for revisions.
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    • 2.External objects inherently transcend any finite set of experiences; no external object could be fully contained within any experience of it.
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    • 3.Judgments about external objects are always open to doubt because those objects go beyond what experience can fully deliver.
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    • 1.Intentionality is structurally directed toward transcendent objects; consciousness is always consciousness *of* something beyond itself.
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    • 2.A science of consciousness that excludes its essential directedness toward transcendent objects thereby misrepresents the very structure it claims to analyze rigorously.
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    • 3.Husserl's own transcendental reduction does not eliminate transcendent reference but brackets it, leaving the intentional relation to external objects intact as a phenomenological datum.
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    • 1.The incompleteness of perceptual presentation does not entail epistemic inaccessibility; Merleau-Ponty shows that bodily engagement grants genuine, if partial, grip on transcendent things.
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    • 2.Ingarden's own ontology of real objects requires that phenomenology describe how transcendent being is *encountered*, not merely how immanent states are internally configured.
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    Ingarden takes Husserl to have been driven to transcendental idealism largely by his epistemological goals and transcendental approach to phenomenology. If the very idea of three-dimensional external objects makes sense, it would be essential that our perceptions of them are inevitably inadequate: They may be presented from one point of view or another, but never exhaustively and entirely -- so room is always left open for new perceptions that would lead us to entirely revise our past judgments.
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