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    Physical objects are not really beautiful, and the wise p... — Carmelics
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    Physical objects are not really beautiful, and the wise person should aspire to care only about the beauty of minds.

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    • 1.Shaftesbury establishes a hierarchy in which beauty of mind is superior to beauty of physical objects.
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    • 2.Shaftesbury's points about beauty of mind suggest physical beauty is merely an early stage of appreciation that the wise person eventually leaves behind.
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    • 1.Plato's Symposium (178a–212c) presents physical beauty not as a mere illusion to transcend but as a necessary epistemic ladder toward higher beauty.
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    • 2.If physical beauty is a genuine rung on the ladder of ascent, dismissing it entirely undermines the very process by which wisdom about beauty is achieved.
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    • 3.Shaftesbury's own neo-Platonic framework thus contradicts the claim: the wise person must honor physical beauty as constitutively enabling, not merely as a stage to abandon.
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    • 1.Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics (X.6–8) argues that virtuous perception of sensible particulars is itself a form of eudaimonic excellence, not a deficiency of wisdom.
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    • 2.If the virtuous person's refined sensory responsiveness to beautiful objects is part of flourishing, then aspiring to care only about minds misidentifies where aesthetic virtue actually resides.
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    • 3.Dismissing physical beauty as unreal conflates metaphysical hierarchy with normative prescription, a fallacy Aristotle's hylomorphism explicitly resists.
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    Adherents of the instrumentalist interpretation take Shaftesbury’s points about beauty of mind and the hierarchy as evidence that Shaftesbury thinks physical objects are not really beautiful at all, and that we should aspire to care only about the beauty of minds (see especially Tiffany 1923). On this view, the beauty of objects (including all art) is merely an early stage of appreciation of beauty that the wise person eventually leaves behind. Against this interpretation, however, Glauser argue
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